ME and Ophelia
Wednesday, October 20, 2004
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SUDAN PROJECT ON WIKIPEDIA
Patrick Hall's Information Campaign
Patrick Hall, at the Horn of Africa weblog, says Wikipedia seems to be taking on a lot of importance on the web.
My sense of Wikipedia is that it's brilliant. I think it's a wonderful idea of Patrick's to record what has been going on in the Sudan, on Wikipedia. It is a project other bloggers might want to visit and get involved with.
There may be bloggers out there who are not able to take action to help the people suffering in Sudan. Many bloggers are shy, quiet and introverted. Wikipedia could be just the thing for some bloggers who are interested in documenting the history of the atrocities in Sudan and Darfur.
Wikipedia is special because it is a piece of work created voluntarily - a labour of love - an encyclopedia - by the citizens of the world. Maybe one day readers from Africa and Asia etc., will be able to press a button and see a wikipedia page translated into their own language.
If I, or anyone I knew, were one of the two million slaughtered in the Sudan, I would want someone to document the facts of what really went on - for future generations to read and learn - so deaths do not go unnoticed. It's sad to think of people lost and forgotten in unmarked mass graves.
Patrick writes at Wikipedia under the username Babbage. He has recently posted a little project called "Sudan Project" -
here's what the page contains. Bless you Patrick. Hope you keep us updated on your work at Wikipedia.
Note - Joi Ito's Web recently published a post about Wikepedia. If I find the post, I'll link it here later on.
SUDAN PROJECT ON WIKIPEDIA
Patrick Hall's Information Campaign
Patrick Hall, at the Horn of Africa weblog, says Wikipedia seems to be taking on a lot of importance on the web.
My sense of Wikipedia is that it's brilliant. I think it's a wonderful idea of Patrick's to record what has been going on in the Sudan, on Wikipedia. It is a project other bloggers might want to visit and get involved with.
There may be bloggers out there who are not able to take action to help the people suffering in Sudan. Many bloggers are shy, quiet and introverted. Wikipedia could be just the thing for some bloggers who are interested in documenting the history of the atrocities in Sudan and Darfur.
Wikipedia is special because it is a piece of work created voluntarily - a labour of love - an encyclopedia - by the citizens of the world. Maybe one day readers from Africa and Asia etc., will be able to press a button and see a wikipedia page translated into their own language.
If I, or anyone I knew, were one of the two million slaughtered in the Sudan, I would want someone to document the facts of what really went on - for future generations to read and learn - so deaths do not go unnoticed. It's sad to think of people lost and forgotten in unmarked mass graves.
Patrick writes at Wikipedia under the username Babbage. He has recently posted a little project called "Sudan Project" -
here's what the page contains. Bless you Patrick. Hope you keep us updated on your work at Wikipedia.
Note - Joi Ito's Web recently published a post about Wikepedia. If I find the post, I'll link it here later on.
# posted by Ingrid J. Jones @ 10/20/2004
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EXCELLENT EXPLANATION AND ANALYSIS
Of Darfur crisis by Mahmood Mamdani
Warm thanks to Owukori for pointing to How can we name the Darfur crisis? by Mahmood Mamdani.
Owukori says Mahmood Mamdani's explanation and analysis of the Darfur crisis is excellent and one of the best pieces she has read. I agree, it's the best piece I have read too.
I'd like to read the report again and write more commentary on it here but am unable to right now and want to get this posted up here without further delay.
Note, Jim Moore has deleted the words "non-partisan" from the title banner of Passion of the Present and so I feel if I, as a co-author, publish a post at the Passion that points to Mahmood's report, I'd be interrupting something. (The war drums are beating over at Harvard and Jim is going ballistic in Boston. America's presidential election is just a few weeks away. Senator John Kerry's supporters are leaving no stone unturned looking for and providing ways to make him say things that might appeal to voters. Senator Kerry is Governor of Mass., and married to Heinz ketchup heiress. Harvard is in Boston, Mass. Join up the dots - and read Second Superpower campaigns for Kerry.)
At Sudan Watch I've posted a copy in full of Mahmood Mamdani's piece. It reflects my view on the Darfur crisis - I completely agree with the report's proposed "solution" and "what we should do" - and love the line that says "we should organize in support of a culture of peace, of a rule of law and of a system of political accountability".
Mahmood Mamdani is Herbert Lehman Professor of Government and Director, Institute of African Studies, at University of Columbia, New York.
EXCELLENT EXPLANATION AND ANALYSIS
Of Darfur crisis by Mahmood Mamdani
Warm thanks to Owukori for pointing to How can we name the Darfur crisis? by Mahmood Mamdani.
Owukori says Mahmood Mamdani's explanation and analysis of the Darfur crisis is excellent and one of the best pieces she has read. I agree, it's the best piece I have read too.
I'd like to read the report again and write more commentary on it here but am unable to right now and want to get this posted up here without further delay.
Note, Jim Moore has deleted the words "non-partisan" from the title banner of Passion of the Present and so I feel if I, as a co-author, publish a post at the Passion that points to Mahmood's report, I'd be interrupting something. (The war drums are beating over at Harvard and Jim is going ballistic in Boston. America's presidential election is just a few weeks away. Senator John Kerry's supporters are leaving no stone unturned looking for and providing ways to make him say things that might appeal to voters. Senator Kerry is Governor of Mass., and married to Heinz ketchup heiress. Harvard is in Boston, Mass. Join up the dots - and read Second Superpower campaigns for Kerry.)
At Sudan Watch I've posted a copy in full of Mahmood Mamdani's piece. It reflects my view on the Darfur crisis - I completely agree with the report's proposed "solution" and "what we should do" - and love the line that says "we should organize in support of a culture of peace, of a rule of law and of a system of political accountability".
Mahmood Mamdani is Herbert Lehman Professor of Government and Director, Institute of African Studies, at University of Columbia, New York.
# posted by Ingrid J. Jones @ 10/20/2004
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Tuesday, October 19, 2004
BUSH WILL WIN ANOTHER TERM
Secession: great blog by John Fitzgerald
John Fitzgerald, author of Secession blog in New York, writes a great post entitled After the Revolution.
Also,, I enjoyed Pauly's quick run down on Kerry vs. Bush. He is sure Bush will win another term. Looking forward to more news as Pauly sees it at Sidetruth in the run up to the election.
I've not seen much on TV of the electioneering in America. I'm surprised how quickly the electronic voting system is being accepted - it's hard to believe it will run without a hitch or controversy.
Over past year I'd predicted Bush would win, and still believe he will. I'm surprised to see them running neck to neck at this stage. With Kerry I get the feeling his burning ambition is simply to hold office and come into his own with his network of wealthy friends and hangers on - none of whom have the foggiest idea of how the other half live.
Kerry seems to have no real plan or inner voice that drives him into wanting to make the world a better place. He's not an inspiring visionary. Gives the impression he is making things up as he goes along, creating policies up on the hoof and saying whatever he gets advice on to say. From the quotes I'd seen written in blogs about the debates, it looked like Kerry and Bush can't speak whole complete sentences.
One news clip I saw on TV showed Kerry touching his nose when he started to tell the story of how he sat beside his mother on her deathbed in hospital listening to his mother's dying words to him: "integrity, integrity, integrity." Body language training films say that people are fibbing when they touch their nose. I'm not implying that Mrs Kerry never said those words to her son, but the touching of the nose made me wonder if he'd stretched the story to include a hospital death bed and last words.
Sadly, it seems because of the huge wealth that is needed behind someone to reach the White House, the U.S. presidency could never be within the reach of creative innovators and inspirational visionaries - or anyone like Gandhi, Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King or any great thinkers. Strange how most of the great peace makers are not caucasian.
Charming Austrian Arnie and brain box Hilary as VP (or Arnie as VP) would at least make a fun looking and interesting team. I'm joking. Or at least I think I'm joking.
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FACT OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 19
Courtesy New York Times
World history takes a major turn today in 1781 as British forces under General Cornwallis surrender to the combined armies of American General George Washington and French Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau. This is the last major battle of the American War of Independence and assures the freedom of the United States of America.
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OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS there is a big to do going on here in Britain. American soldiers in Iraq have disobeyed U.S. orders to drive fuel and supplies to their buddies on the front line - they refused, saying it's too dangerous (never mind about those stuck in the thick of things without supplies and fuel).
The British are more respected and accepted by the people in Iraq and so the U.S. are now asking the U.K. for British forces and support in Iraq - and for them to come under U.S. command. At the same time, some loud voices in America are pushing for the U.S. to attack and bomb Sudan.
If American soldiers can't hack it in Baghdad, they wouldn't last five minutes in the heat and sand of Africa surrounded by warring militia and saber rattling bedouins.
Wannabe President Kerry clearly talks a lot of irresponsible and damaging nonsense. He and his friends don't seem to see America the way the rest of the world sees it. They'd better be careful, or it may find itself alone and get another punch on the nose.
Secession: great blog by John Fitzgerald
John Fitzgerald, author of Secession blog in New York, writes a great post entitled After the Revolution.
Also,, I enjoyed Pauly's quick run down on Kerry vs. Bush. He is sure Bush will win another term. Looking forward to more news as Pauly sees it at Sidetruth in the run up to the election.
I've not seen much on TV of the electioneering in America. I'm surprised how quickly the electronic voting system is being accepted - it's hard to believe it will run without a hitch or controversy.
Over past year I'd predicted Bush would win, and still believe he will. I'm surprised to see them running neck to neck at this stage. With Kerry I get the feeling his burning ambition is simply to hold office and come into his own with his network of wealthy friends and hangers on - none of whom have the foggiest idea of how the other half live.
Kerry seems to have no real plan or inner voice that drives him into wanting to make the world a better place. He's not an inspiring visionary. Gives the impression he is making things up as he goes along, creating policies up on the hoof and saying whatever he gets advice on to say. From the quotes I'd seen written in blogs about the debates, it looked like Kerry and Bush can't speak whole complete sentences.
One news clip I saw on TV showed Kerry touching his nose when he started to tell the story of how he sat beside his mother on her deathbed in hospital listening to his mother's dying words to him: "integrity, integrity, integrity." Body language training films say that people are fibbing when they touch their nose. I'm not implying that Mrs Kerry never said those words to her son, but the touching of the nose made me wonder if he'd stretched the story to include a hospital death bed and last words.
Sadly, it seems because of the huge wealth that is needed behind someone to reach the White House, the U.S. presidency could never be within the reach of creative innovators and inspirational visionaries - or anyone like Gandhi, Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King or any great thinkers. Strange how most of the great peace makers are not caucasian.
Charming Austrian Arnie and brain box Hilary as VP (or Arnie as VP) would at least make a fun looking and interesting team. I'm joking. Or at least I think I'm joking.
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FACT OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 19
Courtesy New York Times
World history takes a major turn today in 1781 as British forces under General Cornwallis surrender to the combined armies of American General George Washington and French Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau. This is the last major battle of the American War of Independence and assures the freedom of the United States of America.
- - -
OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS there is a big to do going on here in Britain. American soldiers in Iraq have disobeyed U.S. orders to drive fuel and supplies to their buddies on the front line - they refused, saying it's too dangerous (never mind about those stuck in the thick of things without supplies and fuel).
The British are more respected and accepted by the people in Iraq and so the U.S. are now asking the U.K. for British forces and support in Iraq - and for them to come under U.S. command. At the same time, some loud voices in America are pushing for the U.S. to attack and bomb Sudan.
If American soldiers can't hack it in Baghdad, they wouldn't last five minutes in the heat and sand of Africa surrounded by warring militia and saber rattling bedouins.
Wannabe President Kerry clearly talks a lot of irresponsible and damaging nonsense. He and his friends don't seem to see America the way the rest of the world sees it. They'd better be careful, or it may find itself alone and get another punch on the nose.
# posted by Ingrid J. Jones @ 10/19/2004
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Monday, October 18, 2004
DR ALBERT SCHWEITZER
The Ethics of Reverence for Life
My new blog b-ethical features two posts and photos of my lifelong hero the late great Dr Albert Schweitzer.
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[source: thanks to Doug]
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TAKE A COOKIE WHEN PASSED
By Bnoopy - An entrepreneurship blog
Here's a lesson that has stuck with Bnoopy, - and one that he adheres to today. Take a Cookie when they're passed. [via Don Park]
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Note, Don thought of Wishstore: an online retailer that sells imaginary products. He thinks such a website would be entertaining enough to draw traffic and generate decent ad revenue, and says "Besides, if an imaginary product is popular enough, someone will make it. Kind a dream come true for manufacturers, isn't it?"
If Don had his Wishstore up and running, I would wish for a gadget with which to zap a fly without having to stand up and chase it. The loud zzzztttt of one fly buzzing at full speed around the room, bouncing off walls and against windows is truly annoying, especially when it goes on for hours - and if there's more than one.
Here's something for Don - not that he needs any tips - SIRC Guide to flirting. Heh.
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FACT OF THE DAY
Courtesy New York Times - October 16
The USA takes possession of its latest purchase today in 1876 - a place called Alaska. The vast piece of real estate (the largest in the USA in terms of land area) costs $7,200,000 and was formerly a possession of Russia. It will eventually become an American state in 1959 - the 49th of the Union.
The Ethics of Reverence for Life
My new blog b-ethical features two posts and photos of my lifelong hero the late great Dr Albert Schweitzer.
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[source: thanks to Doug]
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TAKE A COOKIE WHEN PASSED
By Bnoopy - An entrepreneurship blog
Here's a lesson that has stuck with Bnoopy, - and one that he adheres to today. Take a Cookie when they're passed. [via Don Park]
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Note, Don thought of Wishstore: an online retailer that sells imaginary products. He thinks such a website would be entertaining enough to draw traffic and generate decent ad revenue, and says "Besides, if an imaginary product is popular enough, someone will make it. Kind a dream come true for manufacturers, isn't it?"
If Don had his Wishstore up and running, I would wish for a gadget with which to zap a fly without having to stand up and chase it. The loud zzzztttt of one fly buzzing at full speed around the room, bouncing off walls and against windows is truly annoying, especially when it goes on for hours - and if there's more than one.
Here's something for Don - not that he needs any tips - SIRC Guide to flirting. Heh.
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FACT OF THE DAY
Courtesy New York Times - October 16
The USA takes possession of its latest purchase today in 1876 - a place called Alaska. The vast piece of real estate (the largest in the USA in terms of land area) costs $7,200,000 and was formerly a possession of Russia. It will eventually become an American state in 1959 - the 49th of the Union.
# posted by Ingrid J. Jones @ 10/18/2004
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Sunday, October 17, 2004
PAULY BLOGS HIS JURY DUTY IN NEW YORK CITY
NYT sad story "Sentenced to Be Raped"
Heh. Dead man walking. Brilliant. Another great post by Pauly recounting his jury duty in New York City. I had no idea jurors were asked so many questions. Amazed Pauly had to speak and shocked he had to identify himself in front of the others and two suspected murderers.
For some reason, I thought the identities of jurors were kept under wraps, that jurors were selected on paper and told to turn up, stay anonymous and talk only in a separate room with fellow jurors or at set times to ask questions. I mean, what if the accused takes a dislinke to some jurors and comes looking for them at a later date. I'm surprised jurors in NYC don't all turn up wearing wigs, hats and dark glasses.
Things may be different here in England. I don't watch enough TV dramas to know. Pauly's experience sounds grim. Not sure I could bear sitting in judgement of another person. I'd probably be up half the night, every night making copious notes and painstakingly going over every detail to ensure my view was not prejudiced, emotional, etc.
Seems jurors should be anonymous, even amongst the other jurors, and sit behind a one-way glass so the accused can't look into your eyes, check out body language, remember your face.
Imagine being on a jury where all the jurors believe the accused is guilty, but you are convinced the accused is innocent. And because you can't get the jurors to see your point of view, the accused is sent down for life or put to death. It could give you sleepless nights and affect the rest of your life. Thank goodness I've never been called, I'm sure I'd end up causing someone a problem.
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NYT story "Sentenced to Be Raped"
Pauly, points to a sad story in the New York Times "Sentenced to Be Raped", and writes:
"A very powerful op/ed piece in the NY Times about a woman who was sentenced to be gang raped in Pakistan (for something related to her brother, not her) and, rather than follow the Pakistani tradition of killing herself afterwards, testified against the men, had them prosecuted and used compensation given to her by the Pakistani government to start two different schools. Naturally, the Pakistani government is now apparently going back on promises to fund the schools."
NYT sad story "Sentenced to Be Raped"
Heh. Dead man walking. Brilliant. Another great post by Pauly recounting his jury duty in New York City. I had no idea jurors were asked so many questions. Amazed Pauly had to speak and shocked he had to identify himself in front of the others and two suspected murderers.
For some reason, I thought the identities of jurors were kept under wraps, that jurors were selected on paper and told to turn up, stay anonymous and talk only in a separate room with fellow jurors or at set times to ask questions. I mean, what if the accused takes a dislinke to some jurors and comes looking for them at a later date. I'm surprised jurors in NYC don't all turn up wearing wigs, hats and dark glasses.
Things may be different here in England. I don't watch enough TV dramas to know. Pauly's experience sounds grim. Not sure I could bear sitting in judgement of another person. I'd probably be up half the night, every night making copious notes and painstakingly going over every detail to ensure my view was not prejudiced, emotional, etc.
Seems jurors should be anonymous, even amongst the other jurors, and sit behind a one-way glass so the accused can't look into your eyes, check out body language, remember your face.
Imagine being on a jury where all the jurors believe the accused is guilty, but you are convinced the accused is innocent. And because you can't get the jurors to see your point of view, the accused is sent down for life or put to death. It could give you sleepless nights and affect the rest of your life. Thank goodness I've never been called, I'm sure I'd end up causing someone a problem.
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NYT story "Sentenced to Be Raped"
Pauly, points to a sad story in the New York Times "Sentenced to Be Raped", and writes:
"A very powerful op/ed piece in the NY Times about a woman who was sentenced to be gang raped in Pakistan (for something related to her brother, not her) and, rather than follow the Pakistani tradition of killing herself afterwards, testified against the men, had them prosecuted and used compensation given to her by the Pakistani government to start two different schools. Naturally, the Pakistani government is now apparently going back on promises to fund the schools."
# posted by Ingrid J. Jones @ 10/17/2004
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SIR BOB GELDOF AND CLIVE SOLEY MP
Both working on justice for fathers
British blogger and Labour MP Clive Soley recently wrote about Fathers 4 Justice - a new civil rights movement in Britain that campaigs for a child's right to see both parents and grandparents. They have staged high profile stunts that generated great publicity and debate.
Several months ago, one of them entered the visitors gallery at the House of Commons and threw a bomb of purple powder that hit our Prime Minister Tony Blair while he was speaking. Obviously it caused an security alert and raised good questions about poor security. Another chap made a surprise appearance at Buckingham Palace, on the roof, dressed as Superman. Pretty creative and courageous. It goes to show what lengths they have to go to for their voices to be heard.
For years, fathers have argued their cases properly through the proper channels and legal system but nobody listened and so nothing changed. I wouldn't be surprised if it worsened as more people (especially solicitors) got hooked on the lucrative business of free Legal Aid.
Legal Aid allows anybody without enough income to hire a solicitor. Solicitors welcome Legal Aid clients. Law firms' final bill ends up the same whether it's paid privately or by the taxpayer.
As a private client, one thinks twice about every phone call to a solicitor. Every minute incurs a high fee. Minutes spent on phone calls, faxes, meetings, letters are carefully logged and charged, and swiftly run into thousands of pounds. Legal Aid clients can push their solicitors to do battle in a way they'd not do if they were private clients. Legal Aid clients can pursue action against the 'other side' at the drop of a hanky. Other side has to respond. Expense mounts for both sides.
All of those making a living from the legal system don't care to change much of the process that creates one or two year long acrimonious divorce battles (stretched out IMHO by solicitors for fees) that impacts on the children and relatives involved. If they really did care, they would have fixed it by now.
Many divorcing (or single) mothers use their children as pawns and bartering tools, and put them in the middle and through the mill while threatening the father that he can't see his child/ren if he doesn't do xyz or pay xyz. Some of the women behave like psychos and turn to drink. I know of three cases personally, and worked for family law solicitors were I've seen hundreds of case files.
Now men are using the media to get their voices heard. More power to their elbow and good luck to them is what I say. Fathers4Justice have my support 100%. Here is a copy of a comment I left at Clive's. I am printing it here for future reference:
Below is an excerpt from a BBC report Oct 15, 2004. What I find interesting (I can't find whether author is male or female) is of the six people quoted in the report, all are women - as if men and fathers don't have a say. It would have been better to read the same number of quotes from men.
Even when it comes to reporting on the subject of divorce and children, men's views don't seem to count and aren't even sought! Well done to Bob Geldof for saying laws assume that children are always better off with their mothers.
In the report, I'm not sure what he means by the evils of the 1960s but I see his point about "soap-opera" culture; just like any commercial advertising, viewing "customers" do get influenced. It'd be interesting to know if the separation/divorce rate in the UK, particularly England, increased around the time that both Diana, Princess of Wales and her sister-in-law Sarah, Duchess of York, were seen as having a good time in pastures anew. Their attitude, behaviour, decisions and actions may have influenced many married (and single) mothers who saw them as role models.
Question I'd like to raise is (not sure if I have correct terminology here) whether the introduction of "no fault divorces" - were a good thing. Even when the mothers are the guilty party, and the father the innocent party, the courts and officialdom treat the father like he is the villain whose only role is to be milked of 65% or more of everything he has worked for - including future pension (how can there ever be a clean break?) to the "victim". The mother is seen as the victim because of the children. The children need to be treated as victims NOT THE MOTHERS - the mothers get red carpet treatment by officialdom all the way to the bank, and they know it too.
In the 60s men were womens meal ticket - now women can get that meal ticket for life with just a few years investment of time in one or several men. I know of a women who never married but has four children by four different men. She treated it as a way of life and has ended up with her own mortgage and property and has never worked a day in her life. One of the daughters is now 20 unmarried and has three babies but by the same boyfriend. She was taught the system by her mother. The point I am making here, is not criticsing other people's lives, it's to say that it need not necessarily be a man's fault that a woman has four children by four different men. "Fair and equal human rights for all" is what I say - not for the law to favour females over males or vice versa, and for asset splitting to be no more than 50-50 and legally binding clean breaks to be the norm - all of the wrangling and bitter battling is horrendous for the children who are used as pawns, emotional blackmail and bargaining tools by mothers initiated and fuelled by greedy unethical solicitors who are on a gravy train with Legal Aid.
The government's Child Support Agency (CSA) has improved hugely and seems more sensitive towards what is really going and why most men can't handle dealing with the carpet being pulled from under them by someone they love. I've yet to hear a man saying he does not love, or would not try do right by his children. Seems to me the vast majority of those who "walk away" are those that simply cannot handle being beaten down by the system and vicious vindicative greedy (and violent) wives - the whole thing falls down on a man's head. It's mighty cruel, especially if he is the innocent party - he's just expected to keep a stiff upper lip, knuckle down and work hard to fund the solicitors and ex wives lifestyles for the sake of the children who he has no idea how or what they are being fed or how they are being treated by new strange men on the scene.
Matrimonial lawyers CSA and court welfare officers are on the front line - they know what is going on but are trained to take the mothers side in the best interest of the children - even if it means enforced sale of family home for the mother to get her so-called half (which turns out to be the lions share) while she is living with the children in private rented accommodation fully funded by the State, along with free legal aid (wonder how many of those bills get repaid) in receipt of all the family allowances (that get frittered on partying and clothes) while the father is stripped of everything including his own family, home, savings and pension - and becomes homeless without enough capital to become a homeowner or even afford to rent. Some end up in a bedsit feeling suicidal - and give up - and reject CSA demands because they don't trust the money will be spent on the children that it will be used for the wives drinking and partying habits.
Here is the report (sorry about my long comments Clive but you have a knack for raising emotive issues):
Bob Geldof has now turned his attention to the family and the father's place in it. In two television documentaries, Geldof launches a tirade against the evils of the 1960s and the country's high divorce rate.
He makes the case for why families should stay together, berates women for their attitude towards men, and believes fathers are getting little justice in divorce cases through laws that assume that children are always better off with their mothers.
Geldof has rounded on modern-day "soap-opera" culture. "If our expectation of married life were more realistic, then the everyday reality would not be thought of as difficult, limiting or mundane but rather as comforting and supportive."
He has seized on statistics that women initiate 70% of all divorces, suggesting they should lower their expectations of men. "Men have never felt the need to talk, so why is it now that 'he doesn't talk to me anymore' is enough to end a relationship?" he asks.
Predictably, Geldof's treatise has provoked bitter debate.
Maureen Freely, in the Guardian, accuses Bob Geldof of emphasising the trivial reasons behind divorce. "Poverty, heartbreak, exhaustion, public censure and long, lonely nights. That's what divorce brings to most people in the short term."
Cristina Odone, in the Times, points out that while divorce can affect children badly, so can quarrelling parents at home.
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, of the Independent, suggests Geldof should focus not on fathers but "on the rights of children and the responsibilities of parenthood".
On the other hand, Conservative MP, Ann Widdecombe, applauds Geldof for having the courage to state the obvious. "We are not a happy society for being licentious," she says.
Journalist Amanda Platell, a former Tory spin doctor, believes Geldof is "fighting against a blatant and outdated system that fails to reflect how men have changed".
And Melanie Phillips, of the Daily Mail, in sympathy with Geldof, urges the Conservative Party to stamp out "this libertine free-for-all" from which "all our social ills" derive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3746058.stm
SIR BOB GELDOF AND CLIVE SOLEY MP
Both working on justice for fathers
British blogger and Labour MP Clive Soley recently wrote about Fathers 4 Justice - a new civil rights movement in Britain that campaigs for a child's right to see both parents and grandparents. They have staged high profile stunts that generated great publicity and debate.
Several months ago, one of them entered the visitors gallery at the House of Commons and threw a bomb of purple powder that hit our Prime Minister Tony Blair while he was speaking. Obviously it caused an security alert and raised good questions about poor security. Another chap made a surprise appearance at Buckingham Palace, on the roof, dressed as Superman. Pretty creative and courageous. It goes to show what lengths they have to go to for their voices to be heard.
For years, fathers have argued their cases properly through the proper channels and legal system but nobody listened and so nothing changed. I wouldn't be surprised if it worsened as more people (especially solicitors) got hooked on the lucrative business of free Legal Aid.
Legal Aid allows anybody without enough income to hire a solicitor. Solicitors welcome Legal Aid clients. Law firms' final bill ends up the same whether it's paid privately or by the taxpayer.
As a private client, one thinks twice about every phone call to a solicitor. Every minute incurs a high fee. Minutes spent on phone calls, faxes, meetings, letters are carefully logged and charged, and swiftly run into thousands of pounds. Legal Aid clients can push their solicitors to do battle in a way they'd not do if they were private clients. Legal Aid clients can pursue action against the 'other side' at the drop of a hanky. Other side has to respond. Expense mounts for both sides.
All of those making a living from the legal system don't care to change much of the process that creates one or two year long acrimonious divorce battles (stretched out IMHO by solicitors for fees) that impacts on the children and relatives involved. If they really did care, they would have fixed it by now.
Many divorcing (or single) mothers use their children as pawns and bartering tools, and put them in the middle and through the mill while threatening the father that he can't see his child/ren if he doesn't do xyz or pay xyz. Some of the women behave like psychos and turn to drink. I know of three cases personally, and worked for family law solicitors were I've seen hundreds of case files.
Now men are using the media to get their voices heard. More power to their elbow and good luck to them is what I say. Fathers4Justice have my support 100%. Here is a copy of a comment I left at Clive's. I am printing it here for future reference:
Below is an excerpt from a BBC report Oct 15, 2004. What I find interesting (I can't find whether author is male or female) is of the six people quoted in the report, all are women - as if men and fathers don't have a say. It would have been better to read the same number of quotes from men.
Even when it comes to reporting on the subject of divorce and children, men's views don't seem to count and aren't even sought! Well done to Bob Geldof for saying laws assume that children are always better off with their mothers.
In the report, I'm not sure what he means by the evils of the 1960s but I see his point about "soap-opera" culture; just like any commercial advertising, viewing "customers" do get influenced. It'd be interesting to know if the separation/divorce rate in the UK, particularly England, increased around the time that both Diana, Princess of Wales and her sister-in-law Sarah, Duchess of York, were seen as having a good time in pastures anew. Their attitude, behaviour, decisions and actions may have influenced many married (and single) mothers who saw them as role models.
Question I'd like to raise is (not sure if I have correct terminology here) whether the introduction of "no fault divorces" - were a good thing. Even when the mothers are the guilty party, and the father the innocent party, the courts and officialdom treat the father like he is the villain whose only role is to be milked of 65% or more of everything he has worked for - including future pension (how can there ever be a clean break?) to the "victim". The mother is seen as the victim because of the children. The children need to be treated as victims NOT THE MOTHERS - the mothers get red carpet treatment by officialdom all the way to the bank, and they know it too.
In the 60s men were womens meal ticket - now women can get that meal ticket for life with just a few years investment of time in one or several men. I know of a women who never married but has four children by four different men. She treated it as a way of life and has ended up with her own mortgage and property and has never worked a day in her life. One of the daughters is now 20 unmarried and has three babies but by the same boyfriend. She was taught the system by her mother. The point I am making here, is not criticsing other people's lives, it's to say that it need not necessarily be a man's fault that a woman has four children by four different men. "Fair and equal human rights for all" is what I say - not for the law to favour females over males or vice versa, and for asset splitting to be no more than 50-50 and legally binding clean breaks to be the norm - all of the wrangling and bitter battling is horrendous for the children who are used as pawns, emotional blackmail and bargaining tools by mothers initiated and fuelled by greedy unethical solicitors who are on a gravy train with Legal Aid.
The government's Child Support Agency (CSA) has improved hugely and seems more sensitive towards what is really going and why most men can't handle dealing with the carpet being pulled from under them by someone they love. I've yet to hear a man saying he does not love, or would not try do right by his children. Seems to me the vast majority of those who "walk away" are those that simply cannot handle being beaten down by the system and vicious vindicative greedy (and violent) wives - the whole thing falls down on a man's head. It's mighty cruel, especially if he is the innocent party - he's just expected to keep a stiff upper lip, knuckle down and work hard to fund the solicitors and ex wives lifestyles for the sake of the children who he has no idea how or what they are being fed or how they are being treated by new strange men on the scene.
Matrimonial lawyers CSA and court welfare officers are on the front line - they know what is going on but are trained to take the mothers side in the best interest of the children - even if it means enforced sale of family home for the mother to get her so-called half (which turns out to be the lions share) while she is living with the children in private rented accommodation fully funded by the State, along with free legal aid (wonder how many of those bills get repaid) in receipt of all the family allowances (that get frittered on partying and clothes) while the father is stripped of everything including his own family, home, savings and pension - and becomes homeless without enough capital to become a homeowner or even afford to rent. Some end up in a bedsit feeling suicidal - and give up - and reject CSA demands because they don't trust the money will be spent on the children that it will be used for the wives drinking and partying habits.
Here is the report (sorry about my long comments Clive but you have a knack for raising emotive issues):
Bob Geldof has now turned his attention to the family and the father's place in it. In two television documentaries, Geldof launches a tirade against the evils of the 1960s and the country's high divorce rate.
He makes the case for why families should stay together, berates women for their attitude towards men, and believes fathers are getting little justice in divorce cases through laws that assume that children are always better off with their mothers.
Geldof has rounded on modern-day "soap-opera" culture. "If our expectation of married life were more realistic, then the everyday reality would not be thought of as difficult, limiting or mundane but rather as comforting and supportive."
He has seized on statistics that women initiate 70% of all divorces, suggesting they should lower their expectations of men. "Men have never felt the need to talk, so why is it now that 'he doesn't talk to me anymore' is enough to end a relationship?" he asks.
Predictably, Geldof's treatise has provoked bitter debate.
Maureen Freely, in the Guardian, accuses Bob Geldof of emphasising the trivial reasons behind divorce. "Poverty, heartbreak, exhaustion, public censure and long, lonely nights. That's what divorce brings to most people in the short term."
Cristina Odone, in the Times, points out that while divorce can affect children badly, so can quarrelling parents at home.
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, of the Independent, suggests Geldof should focus not on fathers but "on the rights of children and the responsibilities of parenthood".
On the other hand, Conservative MP, Ann Widdecombe, applauds Geldof for having the courage to state the obvious. "We are not a happy society for being licentious," she says.
Journalist Amanda Platell, a former Tory spin doctor, believes Geldof is "fighting against a blatant and outdated system that fails to reflect how men have changed".
And Melanie Phillips, of the Daily Mail, in sympathy with Geldof, urges the Conservative Party to stamp out "this libertine free-for-all" from which "all our social ills" derive.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3746058.stm
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